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On the Milwaukee Riots - jordan179
August 14th, 2016
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On the Milwaukee Riots
From what I can tell it was a good shooting, and the main problem is that the Mayor has been acting with "restraint" in dealing with the rioters. The job of city officials in a riot is to make sure the cops break heads, shoot to kill (if necessary, take out the ringleaders with snipers) if things get out of control, and haul the scum off to jail and prosecute them for every offense they can pile together so that their city does not become known as a safe place to riot. Riots can destroy the futures of cities, because businesses will not move back into cities where their security against total destruction cannot be assured.
As for the kind of vile creatures who treat times like this as an opprtunity to destroy cities -- who cares whether they live or die? All that happens if they live is that they cause more misery.

As for the riot tourists, they should not be allowed to go from city to city unscathed doing this sort of thing.  It is insane that we allow there to exist a group of rich college kids who attack people and destroy property for recreation, pretending to be "social activists."  Kill 'em, or put them to work at hard labor.  The hobby would become a bit less popular then.


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From:robby
Date:August 14th, 2016 06:17 pm (UTC)
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You're coming across pretty harshly. I'm not sure any shooting is ever a "good shooting", and the police should keep order, but the most effective riot control tactics probably aren't to break heads or kill riotors.
From:galadrion
Date:August 14th, 2016 06:27 pm (UTC)
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I'm not sure - dead rabble-rousing rioters have a zero recidivism rate. Certainly, give them an opportunity to back down, but once someone is voluntarily participating in a breakdown of civilization, they need to face the consequences of that act of barbarism. Not for their sake, but for the sake of the civilization they attempted to sack.

So perhaps I'm a little less hard-line on this than Jordan is, but I'm still right up there with him. These people need to be arrested, tried, and serve whatever sentence their crimes earn them. And if they resist arrest and are, as a result, killed, then that is the consequence of their own choices and actions, and no blame should attach to the defenders of civilization. Any "activist" who tries to blame the police and legal system for doing their jobs is a willing accessory, aiding and abetting the barbarians, and needs to be held equally culpable.
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From:allaboutweather
Date:August 14th, 2016 06:21 pm (UTC)
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Sadly little can be done about it until Obama and Loretta Lynch-mob are out. Then there's CNN who defends the hell outta these thugs, portraying them as saints despite many of them having a mile-long rap sheet.

Hillary has also been pandering to them recently by saying the police should be held accountable (but not Black Lies Matter).


Of course, double standards are the left's standards so they'll justify these riots as "behavior they can't control" and "free speech" while saying that anyone who criticizes BLM is a racist and is "promoting hate speech".
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From:jordan179
Date:August 16th, 2016 10:26 am (UTC)
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Sadly little can be done about it until Obama and Loretta Lynch-mob are out ...

That is the main problem. But cities can fight back. Part of the reason this probably happened in Milwaukee is the fault of the mayor -- he urged "restraint," and the rioters are taking advantage of the police restraint.
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From:ford_prefect42
Date:August 14th, 2016 06:29 pm (UTC)
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I would at least say that anyone whose business is attacked should have an absolute right to defend it... with a 20mm vulcan.
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From:prester_scott
Date:August 14th, 2016 06:55 pm (UTC)
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I can't get on board with that. 20mm rounds will overpenetrate and cause all kinds of damage beyond the rioters.
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From:asher63
Date:August 14th, 2016 07:00 pm (UTC)
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I don't know that draconian measures are needed if we simply enforce the law. That's the problem, too many ivory tower bureaucrats cave too easily to the demands of Soros-funded thugs. And somebody needs to educate this generation that not every police shooting is an arbitrary exercise of force.
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From:robby
Date:August 14th, 2016 07:05 pm (UTC)
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Yes! If the mayor of Milwaukee prevented an effective police response, that's where we should focus, and stop howling for more blood.
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From:kharmii
Date:August 14th, 2016 07:09 pm (UTC)
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We need another McCarthyism. The left is becoming too powerful and destructive in this country. They cause the decline of every society they take over.
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From:harvey_rrit
Date:August 15th, 2016 04:33 pm (UTC)
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I dunno about that. Consider:

If Joe McCarthy had been replaced by a duplicate whose sole ambition was to make the public think of leftists as something other than imposers of slavery, giving them instead the status of helpless victims of oppression, what should that duplicate have done that Joe McCarthy didn't?
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From:xiphias
Date:August 14th, 2016 08:33 pm (UTC)
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Fan of police states, hunh?
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From:ford_prefect42
Date:August 14th, 2016 11:58 pm (UTC)
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As opposed to having your city sacked by barbarians? Yeah. Police state *sucks*, but it's not the absolute worst thing, killing those that loot stores, beat the innocent, and burn down city blocks is by *far* preferable to letting them have free reign and even rewarding such behavior!
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From:kingodin
Date:August 14th, 2016 09:26 pm (UTC)
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I hate how American society acts as though people of certain demographics are immune to criticism or incapable of wrongdoing.
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From:allaboutweather
Date:August 16th, 2016 01:15 pm (UTC)
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That's exactly what political correctness is. Several groups (African Americans and Muslims especially) are "above criticism" and should you dare say anything remotely bad about them, you get called a racist or bigot. It's almost to where those two terms are losing their meaning because they're not used to describe legitimate racism and bigotry anymore but are merely used to describe people with a different opinion.
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From:skarman
Date:August 15th, 2016 05:47 am (UTC)
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I'll just leave this here...

http://heyjackass.com/

Media, BLM, SJWs and the usual suspects have been having a field day, recently, with the dead of Paul O'Neal, an 18 year old, BLACK car thief.

http://goo.gl/WrVRv8

Execution!
Street Justice!
Murder!

All the usual quotes they use in such a situation. I've yet to see TheRevAl and Jesse Jack-ass- -son get involved, but it's only a matter of time. After all, it's a black person, killed by predominantly white cops, so it's 'news'.

They are, however, pretty much silent about the nearly 100 people shot, in less than a week, which, incidentally, brings the numbers shot this year, to 2500, over 800 more than this time, last year.

*Between last Friday afternoon and early Thursday, at least 99 people were shot in the city, 24 of them fatally. At least nine people were killed on Monday alone, the deadliest day in Chicago in 13 years, according to Tribune data. Among the wounded that day was a 10-year-old boy shot in the back as he played on his front porch in Lawndale.*

http://goo.gl/DX0Prn

Now, these victims, most of them are black. The perpetrators, most of them are black. Yet, where is the BLM movement? Where are the SJWs, who claim institutionalised racism is the root of the problem? Where are the community organizers? Where is the president, who always weighs in on shootings, especially if it's cops against blacks? TheRevAl? Jesse Jackass?

*crickets chirping*

I've not followed the situation in Milwaukee, apart from another idiot claiming that 'the rich ain't givin' us money' on the MSM and that is the reason why they are rioting. However, my point stands. The usual suspects are silent about all the shootings perpetrated by their own. Why, because it's not something that is helping their relevancy. IF the MSM, SJWs and the rest were to actually continuously report about those facts, people would demand harsh actions while having too much sympathy for the police. Can't have that, can we? They are 'The Man', 'Pigs', 'Racist Thugs, working for the white slave masters'.

To be clear, I'm sure police have been and continue to grab their guns quicker. However, it is not because of 'racism'. And these rioters? They are spreading fecal matter where they live. In the end, they are the ones who will suffer for it. Like stated previously, no business will return if this is the response by the government.
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From:ford_prefect42
Date:August 15th, 2016 11:41 am (UTC)
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Actually, according to a recent harvard study, police are 20% *more* likely to shoot a white suspect than a black one. Now, they're 20% more likely to use other, nonlethal force on blacks, but which would you rather be, put in handcuffs, or shot?

Predictably, both sides are cherry picking the data, and most of them are wildly misrepresenting it, 20% more likely to shoot whites than blacks is not "no racial bias", and the data going both ways is not "anti-black police bias in the use of force"

http://www.nber.org/papers/w22399
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From:harvey_rrit
Date:August 15th, 2016 04:36 pm (UTC)
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My own preference would be to have the Fire Department set their hose nozzles on Spray and aim above the rioters, as should have been done to the Occupy Anybody Antiterrorist crowds.

Cold wet people do not riot well.
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From:allaboutweather
Date:August 16th, 2016 03:55 pm (UTC)
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Brilliant. It probably works wonders during the winter. XD
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From:kitten_goddess
Date:August 18th, 2016 05:29 pm (UTC)
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I thought it was a case of racism until I read two things:

1. The guy who got shot came out pointing a gun at the cop.
2. The cop who shot the guy was also black.


Nope nope nope. No racism this time. Just a cop doing his job. If you point a gun at the police, what do you expect?
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From:skarman
Date:August 18th, 2016 05:46 pm (UTC)
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I'm sorry, well, not really, but your comment is actual racism and shows distinct bias.

Cop shot black man, oooohhhhh, RACISMMMMMM!!!!!!!!

In other words, you automatically thought the police officer was white. As if all police officers are white and there are no blacks, asians, latinos, mixed race cops.

And your bias shows in the fact that you automatically assumed that the cop shot the perpetrator because he is a cop, not because he had just cause.

It is quite clear that BLM has clouded your perceptions. You automatically think that when a cop kills a black person, it's always the cop who is in the wrong. I'm not saying that in the recent past, the police has not been too free with their guns. I, too, have criticized their behaviour, but ONLY AFTER GETTING ALL THE FACTS!!! Like when they shot a ten or eleven year old kid, waving a toy gun around, before the cruiser had even come to a stop. In many other cases, I've been critical, but only after I had all the facts.

What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'? I suggest you read my first post, where you'll see who is actually the largest enemy of the blacks in the US. It's not the police. It's their own people. Yet, BLM stays silent about the death toll exacted by black-on-black violence. They don't care that, in Chicago, for instance, so far this year, there have been over 2500 shootings, most of which is black-on-black. Why? Because it doesn't do well in public perception. Because it shows why the police are so trigger happy, when it comes to black criminals. Because cops know that in certain areas, you either shoot first, or your family gets a call because you either ended up in a hospital or the morgue.
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From:skarman
Date:August 18th, 2016 05:32 pm (UTC)
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As per usual, CNN is up to their old tricks, selectively editing their video, claiming the sister was calling for peace, when in fact, she was calling for the rioting to be moved to the suburbs:

http://goo.gl/ajPeC7

The victim's sister is really concerned about all the weaves that are being burned, because her community needs it:

https://goo.gl/ivFoTz

http://goo.gl/8a4U5D

So, who again, was against harsh measures against these morons?

I have two solutions.

One, is using extreme prejudice. Fully armoured police, beating the stuffing out of anyone stupid enough to riot, loot and generally try to take advantage of the protests. You want to peacefully protest, please continue. Step out of line? It's time to get medieval on your asses. You start to use guns to shoot back? The kid's gloves come off and it's bodybag time.

The second, is the Escape from New York, aka the Snake Plisken Solution. Build a wall around the affected area. Let them be responsible for themselves. No welfare. No food and other products moved in. You want out? Go to school and get a degree. Learn a trade, electrician, plumber or something. Don't commit a crime. You'll get a pass to come to an accredited school, outside the neighbourhood, to continue your education. Once you have that and have found a job and held it for a year, you are allowed to move out of the walled area into the rest of the city. We'll look in, in about a century, to see what the situation is.
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From:benschachar_77
Date:August 19th, 2016 03:18 pm (UTC)
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The thing that bugs me is that 9 out of 10 times the shooting is justifiable but everyone still wants to pretend the reality disproportionate black violence and lawbreaking is some meme created by racists.

Every time this crap happens I am reminded of the necessity of gun ownership. Maybe if the dems spent less time fomenting racial grievance (and therefore promulgating mob violence and implicitly encouraging black-on-white violence)there wouldn't be such a need to be armed.

It is darkly humorous that the left itself with it's policies of infantilizing, ignoring, and excusing crime from certain groups of people is simultaneously encouraging violence and trying to quash the ability of law abiding persons to defend themselves.

Edited at 2016-08-19 03:19 pm (UTC)
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From:justgin1978
Date:August 27th, 2016 11:52 pm (UTC)
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I know this is old now and everyone has quit responding and probably no one will respond to this, but here's my 2 cents.

Where are the SANE black men and woman who are willing to stand up to these bunch of low-life black people and tell them they are wrong???

Evil exists because good people stay silent. Shame on all those sane blacks who say nothing about the horrible behavior of their own people because they fear reprisal.
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From:kharmii
Date:August 28th, 2016 12:33 am (UTC)
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From:biailisha
Date:August 29th, 2016 03:40 am (UTC)
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I missed the entire news..
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